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A late-night voicemail, zero symptoms, and a preventive full-body MRI that changed everything. We sit down with oncology nutrition consultant Andrea Schaffer, who shares the moment she learned she had a mass in the right temporal lobe of her brain, how she navigated world-class surgery, and why she decided to focus on a metabolic approach to cancer rather than chemo or radiation. Her story is startling, hopeful, and practical for anyone thinking seriously about preventive health and early detection.
We also get specific about what “taking control of your health” can look like after a scare or before one ever happens. Andrea explains why she tracks frequent, extensive blood work alongside six-month MRI scans, and why standard “normal” lab ranges can still hide problems if you care about optimal health. We talk inflammation markers, blood sugar markers, and the idea that your symptoms are your body’s messages, not something to automatically write off as aging or menopause.
Nutrition is the centerpiece. Andrea breaks down her Mediterranean-style ketogenic strategy, why blood sugar control matters so much, and how to build satisfying low-carb meals with plenty of vegetables, adequate protein, and healthy fats. We also touch on bioindividual plans, when markers like IGF-1 can guide food choices such as taking a break from dairy, and why cooking at home is one of the most powerful ways to reduce ultra-processed ingredients and unwanted chemicals.
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I'm looking for tighter ranges that indicate more of an optimal situation. So I'd be curious to look at, you know, labs and to be able to see are these really healthy labs, or are there things that we can work on to make you even healthier?
SPEAKER_01
Do you get confused by all of the information that barges us every day on ways to improve our overall health and our overall wellness? Do you often feel stuck, unmotivated, or struggle to reach your wellness goals? Do you have questions as to what exercises you should be doing? What foods you should or should not be eating? How to improve your overall emotional and mental well-being? Hello everyone, I am so excited to welcome you to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly Jeffries, and I will be your host. My goal is to answer these questions and so much more. To share tips, education, and inspiration around all of the components of wellness through solo and guest episodes. With 35 plus years as a health and wellness professional, a retired college professor, a speaker, and a multi-passionate entrepreneur, I certainly have lots to share. However, my biggest goal and inspiration in doing this podcast is to share the wellness stories of others with you. To bring in guests who can share their journeys so that we can all learn together while making an impact on the health, the wellness, and lives of all of you, our listeners. The ultimate hope is that you leave today with even just one nugget that can enhance the quality of your life, and that you will, we all will, now and into the future, live our best quality of lives full of energy, happiness, and joy. Now let's dive into our message for today.
Hello, my friends. Welcome back to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly, and I am your host. And my guest today is an oncology nutrition consultant. And I am very, very much looking forward to this conversation and learning all about her, what she has experienced, and the work that she is doing that I'm sure is so, so needed with so many individuals this day and age. And so, Andrea Schaefer, welcome to Words of Wellness.
SPEAKER_00
Thank you so much. I'm so excited to have this conversation with you today.
SPEAKER_01
I am really excited too. And just a little bit of our conversation before we started recording, and you making reference to what you experienced just a few short years ago. It has not been very long. And so I I would love just to hear a little bit about that journey that you that you went on. Which, of course, looking at you now and hearing you speak and all of the things, you would never know it. So is that was that what first led you into what you're doing now, I'm guessing? Or were you already in oncology nutrition before?
I was actually already in oncology nutrition before. Yes. I yes, I have had a longtime interest in nutrition, but I decided to go down in the oncology route because my mom had breast cancer when I was a teenager. And we had a close family friend who got a colon cancer diagnosis and ultimately she passed. And I wanted to be able to help people like her. So I did all of my studies in oncology. And in 2023, I decided that I better walk the walk. So I decided to do a full-body MRI scan with a company called Prenuvo. And I had no reason to do this other than I was 44. My mom had been 44 when she got cancer for her first time. And I had had a previous year that was just ultimately like very, very stressful and difficult. And I knew I needed to refocus on my health. So I got this scan. And they told me that it would be about two weeks until I got my results. Later that night, I got a phone message saying we need to talk to you about something in your scan. It was nine o'clock at night when I received the message, and no one was there to speak to. So the next day I managed to speak to a nurse practitioner. And they start at the top of your body. You have a 2.3 by 2.4 centimeter mass in the right temporal lobe of your brain. I was shocked. I had no idea, no symptoms. Usually, when you have a brain tumor, you find out because you have headaches and you dive deeper and you look into it, or you have a seizure, and that causes you to go have an MRI to see what's going on. But this was a preventative MRI, and it found something very important. So being an oncology nutritionist, luckily I had a lot of connections in the holistic oncology world. And so I went to my people and where do I go for surgery? And I got directed to Arizona, to the Barrow Institute, and they ultimately said, Yeah, you need to have surgery. So three months later, I had surgery with one of the best surgeons in the world. They removed the full tumor, which is amazing. And I was out of surgery and out of the hospital within 24 hours. It was remarkable. Now, of course, being an oncology nutritionist, I knew what to do right away from a dietary perspective. And from the minute I found out I had a brain tumor, I changed a lot of things, namely my diet. I went on a very deep ketogenic diet, a Mediterranean style of a ketogenic diet, I should specify. Along with my surgeon, we decided
that I would not do radiation or chemo. So I never did that. I've just maintained my status as no evidence of disease since my surgery by utilizing the metabolic approach to cancer, my diet, working on my stress, and every little part of my health that I can determine is out of balance. So that's what happened.
SPEAKER_01
Wow. I have so many thoughts on this. I'm just trying to like take a moment to process. Um and I the timing, I could get emotional, but the timing couldn't be better because I just had a breast MRI done because my markers are high, because my mom had cancer. I had a grandmother who passed from cancer when she was very young. And, you know, I think back then she was in her 50s. And back then, because I don't know if technology or what, but it happened so quickly and it took her life so quickly. They say it was breast cancer, but I don't know that it was really truly that's where it originated. So with my nurse practitioner encouraging this MRI, and I'm thinking, I don't feel anything, but okay, I'm trusting her. And, you know, thankfully it came back clear. But I'm in this state right now where I'm so frustrated with our healthcare system, and you do these things for preventative measures because I am 110% about pre being preventative. And I just got the bill the other day, and I'm like, hold up a minute, what's going on? So this is just gonna kind of put it back into perspective for me because bill or no bill, this is just an amazing testament to be doing these preventative measures because my God, I can't even, I'm having a hard time even processing the fact you had no symptoms whatsoever.
SPEAKER_00
I was very, very lucky. And honestly, I realized how lucky I was the day before my surgery. It was my first time meeting my surgeon in person. And I had another MRI that morning to prepare for surgery. And as we're looking at the images, he said, Are you sure you haven't had a seizure? Because this tumor is compressing your hippocampus in half, and that causes seizures. Knock on wood. And thank goodness I found it when I did. Um heaven forbid, you know, having a seizure while driving could hurt myself or others, and that is a very scary thing. So yeah, I'm very, very grateful.
SPEAKER_01
So you're a couple different things. I'm thinking, like, so your prognosis right now, so you go in and you are checked, is it every six months, or what does that look like?
SPEAKER_00
Yes, every six months I have an MRI scan, and I don't have an oncologist.
My surgeon takes care of all these things for me, so I meet with him every six months, but that's not the only thing I do. I also rely on extensive blood testing to see how things are going in my body. I'm looking at my inflammation markers, I'm looking at my blood sugar markers, I run very, very extensive labs about every six to eight weeks. And that is my heads up when something's out of balance. So I will see it on my labs before I would ever see it on a scan. So, given, you know, that you are looking deeper into your health, I'm glad you had the MRI, breast MRIs. That's a really great idea. I prefer that to mammograms. And there are other things you can do to check in on your health to make sure that you can stay healthy. And doing extensive blood labs is one of them.
SPEAKER_01
Well, it's interesting you bring that up because I have been talking about that um on my podcast, and I've done a few videos about it on social media, just about doing these preventative tests and having the lab work done, having your physicals done. And I always have had my physical done. I am close to uh the big 6-0 in less than a month, and so it's kind of hit me more this year, and also my mom was 67 when she lost her battle, so I always have that in the back of my head. Um so I'm like whatever I can do to prevent that.
SPEAKER_00
In this day and age, there's a lot you can do. It takes gathering data, but what I can tell you is that labs change. You can improve your labs, but we have to know where you are as a baseline.
SPEAKER_01
And that's that's it. And gosh, I didn't know I was gonna get emotional, but that's so okay. I that is, and it's just like you are just like spot on speaking my language right now because I had my labs done in December, and it was the first time ever. My numbers were like, what's going on? They were all kind of wonky, I want to say. Um, and I I really I'm pretty sure it's a hormone thing at this phase. Um, so there's that's why I dug deeper and I had my had it test my lab work lab work done again like six months later, and and things were better. Um so I think, and I I know you can share with our audience about just the importance of this, but also another big thing for me, and I've been thinking about this a lot, is diving deeper, is making sure we're getting a thorough panel run and not just the basics. And I feel like my nurse practitioner is pretty, really good about that. But I can't help but think, is there more? Is there more I should be testing? Is there more I should be looking at? So I've kind of been a little bit more into this kind of dive deep dive in this whole topic. Um, and so I'm just I'm excited to learn more from you and to hear more about also the nutrition program that you that you followed and that you recommend with your with your clients. And I know that in the area of wellness and longevity, I definitely
promote the Mediterranean Mediterranean way of eating and um and anti-inflammatory is huge, I know as well. So can you share with us what kind of that looks like from your perspective and also to help listeners have kind of a like a kind of a little bit of an overview for what they could apply to their day-to-day nutritional intake, whether or not they're dealing with cancer, right? I I think it's a preventative measure, I'm guessing, as well. Big time.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely. 100%. I think you're on the right track when you ask about labs to start. Um, you're right. Most conventional doctors are not running a comprehensive panel. I run with cancer patients, usually 35 to 37 different markers, which is a lot. Now, if someone is more aligned with prevention, maybe we don't do every cancer driver, but we would get a good assortment that probably your conventional doctor's not running. Now, with the diet, diet is your number one tool for health. I mean, it's saving my life right now. Um, and definitely how I look at diet is it's a bio-individual thing. And my recommendations might be different if someone has an autoimmune disease or other things going on. But in general, I think the number one thing that we can address with diet right off the bat is blood sugar, and that's one of the reasons why I went on my very strict ketogenic, low-carb Mediterranean style diet. I actually call it super keto because you feel amazing. Um, but it is very, very low carb because brain tumors and other cancers are very sugar hungry. So blood sugar is one of the first things that we want to address. Now we can look at labs to check and see if blood sugar is an issue. When I look at labs though, I am using lab ranges that are a bit different than what your conventional doctor is looking at that comes back from the lab. They're looking for disease, bright red, you know, high or low. I'm looking for tighter ranges that indicate more of an optimal situation. So I'd be curious to look at, you know, labs and to be able to see are these really healthy labs, or are there things that we can work on to make you even healthier?
SPEAKER_01
And I love this so much because that's been something else I have been talking about is making sure it is optimal. Because I I understand that most labs, like you're saying, is the the values are based on the average person, right? And I'm like, I don't want to be average, I don't know about anybody else, but I want to be optimal, like you're saying, and have the optimum chance of living the best, longest, healthiest life as possible. And that's it, that's another part of the equation that I want to make sure is happening for myself and then for all of our listeners, so that they understand that and to to dive deeper and to seek more and to ask the questions and and to do more rather than just kind of accept. It's easy to go, oh great, I'm in the normal, I'm I'm okay. You know what I mean? I feel like I did that for a while, not realizing. And it's just the recent, recent years where I was like, oh, yeah, there's much more to this for sure.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely. And I I think that also goes for symptoms, you know, our symptoms are our body's messages to us, it's their it's its secret language. And when our body talks to us through symptoms, we can
often say, oh, I it's just peramenopause, or it's menopause, or it's just a sign of aging. We normalize these symptoms, but it doesn't have to be that way. Our bodies are just communicating, so we gotta listen. And granted, I didn't have symptoms prior to my MRI, but I still looked a little bit deeper. Had I had a symptom, I would have absolutely gone to investigate. But without a symptom, no doctor in their right mind would have given me any sort of MRI.
SPEAKER_01
So this is my question then. Like, to me, this is a bit concerning, but also I don't know if I want to say encouraging at the same time that you could go and have this done and and find this tumor. But the average person, unless they have the symptom, they're not gonna willingly do this, right? Unless directed like my nurse practitioner directed me. So I guess my question would be: what would your recommendation be? And I mean, a full-body MRI, I of course, for every person would be incredible. I don't know if anyone and everyone can pay for that. I don't know what that looks like. But is there a certain age or what does that look like as far as what your recommendation would be for people now having gone through this like you did?
SPEAKER_00
If you have the curiosity or you feel like something may be off and you can afford a full-body MRI scan, I highly recommend it. But if that's not accessible to you, I would start with labs. Talk to your doctor, they can order them, they can absolutely do what they can do for you get on insurance. And that can be a helpful starting point. If you feel like you need to dive deeper, there are practitioners like myself who can help you do that. We would be happy to do so. But it is possible to look deeper on many different levels in many different ways, depending on any symptoms you have. You know, if you're having digestive symptoms, we could look at gut tests. If your hormones are out of whack, there are hormone tests. Blood tests tell us a lot. One of my mentors always says test, assess, and address. So gather your data, work with someone who knows what to do with it, and then we can address it.
SPEAKER_01
So good. What would a typical day of your breakfast? Breakfast, lunch, dinner. I mean, you're basically, are you staying? I I think from what you're saying, you're you're staying in this ketogenic place with your Mediterranean diet. And it's funny, I I have to kind of reprogram my brain because I've always been that person, you need carbohydrates, which you do, but some people don't need as many as others, right? You can minimize that for sure. And then I have to also remind individuals that, well, your veggies, your fruits are carbohydrates too, right? So that obviously can count, count. And the veggies are a big deal of the Mediterranean diet. So what does a typical day look like for you?
SPEAKER_00
So I am on a very, very low carb diet because brain cancers respond very well to that. Your brain is made of fat. Um, so my day starts out usually with some eggs. I eat a lot of eggs. Usually I try and put some vegetables with that. Um, you know, like a fritata with some greens, maybe some chopped up uh cauliflower, which is kind of like a potato. Cauliflower can be whatever it wants to be. Yeah. And I always add extra fat into my fritata, like a lot of extra fat. It's delicious. And you can add herbs or top it with microgreens. There are ways to get your veggies in without being high carb. Lunch is usually a salad or
soup or some leftovers from dinner the night before. Um, and also I include a little bit of protein, of course, a nice sauce or a dressing to get my fats in. And there's naturally vegetables in salad and soup. So lots of vegetables. And then dinner is sort of a keto version of sort of a meat and vegetable sort of template. And that can take a few different forms, but usually some protein, some animal protein, maybe some vegetables like broccoli or cauliflower or a side salad. And then again, more sauce. I can make vegetables into my noodles, like zucchini noodles. Um, cauliflower again is great as rice. And I make up really interesting recipes. If I want Thai food or I want Chinese food, I can do these things. I can make these foods and still be on my diet.
SPEAKER_01
I bet, yeah, I bet it took a little bit of creativity in the beginning, but I'm sure now you're so used to it. And is it what you recommend to each of your clients, or does it change a little bit depending on what they are experiencing and perhaps what type of cancer they have? I'm guessing most of your clients come to you because of that reason, or also for preventative reasons like myself, going, What do you recommend? And it probably shifts, I guess.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely shifts. Our health is very bioindividual. And that can be influenced by our diagnoses, by our lab, like looking at labs. Does this person have a blood sugar problem? What are they eating and is it helping them? Like what do the labs look like? I try and use data as much as I can. If the person comes back having high IgF1, which is insulin growth factor number one, then we omit dairy for a while. Dairy plays into IGF 1, and so in order to bring that down, we often have to remove dairy. Um, now how low in carbohydrate do I go with each client? It depends. Some people can control their blood sugar at a higher level of carbohydrate than others. Some of that is genetic. Other than that, it can be just the way their metabolism works. And we aim to discover what is best for their body. But generally, I do recommend at least a low carbohydrate diet when we're thinking about cancer, because you really can't go wrong as long as you're getting your nutrition in with plenty of veggies, enough protein, and good healthy fats.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I for the most part would be totally fine with I think like we will have my husband and I will have many times for dinner like a nice big salad, and he'll make some chicken breast or
fish or something to put on it or with it. And I'm super satisfied. Like, you know, so I think that yes, do I like my bread on occasion? On occasion, but I I know I'm one that I'm fine without it too. And for some people, it is a shift, but just like anything with our health, you know, those shifts need to happen and those changes need to happen for many people in order to preserve their health.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely. It's not all sacrifice, right? I have my bread too. It's just made from other ingredients, it's made from pecans or macadamia nuts and egg whites.
SPEAKER_01
I have my bread. Right. And it's so great because we don't all we're not we don't always think in those terms, but knowing that there are so many options is really exciting. And again, it just takes some creativity and recipes and and I sometimes for me I'm not my husband is the cook, so I I'm not the best at following recipes. So for me, I'm like, oh, but you know, it's I just think that that's that's amazing. You know, once you get into the routine of it and you can plan and follow the recipes that are going to to be in alignment with that, it it's there's again, there's so many, so many more options nowadays, I feel like.
SPEAKER_00
Yes. I do think that the single most important thing you can do for your health is to cook your own food.
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
SPEAKER_00
We have gotten a little accustomed to convenience foods and to outsourcing the preparation of our foods. But when you do that, you lose control over the ingredients that they contain. And taking back control over exactly what you eat is really empowering.
SPEAKER_01
It really, really is. And yeah, I mean, because you just don't know what you're getting when you eat out, and we do for the most part eat at home. Um, except on the weekend, we might have one night where we go out, but you're so right. Like we've gotten so used to, society has gotten used to so much of this convenience and drive-thru and all of the things. And now, I mean, you see it. I mean, there's so much. I've been sharing it. These, and even these companies that we think are healthy are being bought out by these bigger corporations that are not healthy. And, you know, you could go down a rabbit hole, but I see this information and I really try and get it out there and share because that's been a really big mission of mine through the years to share about toxins and what we're being exposed to and how do we reduce our exposure. And it's exactly like you're saying, it's I always say, what can we do that's in our control? Because there's so much that isn't. So, from what you're saying, is such a huge part of it is cooking your own meals. You know, you know then what you're consuming. Bottom line.
SPEAKER_00
Exactly. And you're not gonna put in the chemicals.
SPEAKER_01
Exactly. It's ice, I don't know how you how you feel, but lately I feel like every time I turn around, there's something like wow. And even a company that you might might have trusted and thought it was clean and high quality, done and gone. I mean, it's so you just have to stay on top of it, I feel like. And I I don't I like to be the person that helps people with that, like make it a little bit more simple for those that maybe haven't taken the time to research it or aren't as educated. I just feel like the main purpose is to increase the awareness around it and help just spread the word, right?
Yes, I think that is a very timely topic, and definitely it can be solved by cooking your own food.
SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm. Well, I feel like it could be also probably an even another episode that we could jump into. You know, I mean, we could definitely do part two, and I just I appreciate you taking the time today so much. And I just uh I you've really touched my heart, and I'm just so grateful you had that MRI, and that I mean you look amazing, and you would never ever know that you went through that. And it's only been three, three years.
SPEAKER_00
It's been I had the scan done in February of 2023 and surgery in April of 2023, so three and a half years or so.
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SPEAKER_00
And my life has changed a lot. My diet has changed, my health has changed, I saw my labs improve so much. And it's been really the opportunity of a lifetime to really fix anything in my life that was not going well so that it goes the right direction.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, no, I love that, and that's huge. And that's I think that's such an important message for the listeners. And I know I'm kind of in that too, where I've always taken the steps, but again, it's more diving in a little bit deeper at this stage.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely. And we have resources, we can support you.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. And how can people find you, Andrea? Like, you know, that want to reach out and and possibly, you know, work with you or have their lab work done with you, or what that what does that look like?
SPEAKER_00
So I have an oncology nutrition business called Not Just Broccoli. Um, because it's not just about broccoli, it's about all of the things around you and in your environment, in your body. It's multifaceted. And so you can find me at my website, www.notjustbroccoli.com. And I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, and I would love to connect. I do offer a free offering called a sunshine session for cancer patients. Um, that's a group call where we just talk about various topics
every other week, and you're welcome to join. Um and I do an introductory consultation, and that's the best place to start. So I'd love to meet many of you, and we can dive deeper together.
SPEAKER_01
I love that. Well, I appreciate you so much sharing today, and I often ask if there's any last words of wellness or inspiration that you'd want to share. And so I'll ask you, even though I feel like everything you've shared has been so inspiring to me today. Um, but is there anything else you'd like to leave our listeners with?
SPEAKER_00
Yeah. Don't be afraid of the data. I've had people approach me saying, I'm nervous to get a scan, or I I'm nervous to get the labs because of what I learned. And I understand that fear. But we can change our health. Your body wants to heal. So we just need the data to tell us how.
SPEAKER_01
So good. Well, thank you. And to all our listeners, especially if you might be faced with cancer or you have a friend or a loved one, whoever it might be, reach out to Andrea because you can hear that she she will help you. And I think it's such an important thing to reach out and to not be scared, even though I know it can be a kind of a little bit, we can be a little apprehensive of what we're gonna find out. But I just want to encourage any of you listening today to to reach out to Andrea. I will put her information in the show notes. And as I always say, take time for yourself and your wellness on this day. And until next time, have a beautiful, blessed rest of your week. And we'll see you next time on Words of Wellness. Hi, my friends. Just a quick, quick message for all of you. I wanted to let all of my listeners know that I have an upcoming special Flourish for Life 12-week coaching program. And I couldn't be more excited. It's going to be a one-on-one program. I'm going to be opening up just a select few spots, and the first five to ten moms or women who register will be my founding members. And you will also receive a very special discounted rate. So please reach out to me on Instagram at WellnesswithShelly J or click on the link in the show notes below for more details. And I cannot wait to work alongside you. Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode. I hope you gained value and enjoyed
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