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From ER To Empowerment: Navigating PCOS And Sustainable Health

• Shelly Jefferis • Season 2 • Episode 146

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What if the path out of overwhelm isn’t a 90-day overhaul but the smallest meaningful step you can repeat today? That simple pivot anchors a candid, energizing conversation with Lindsie Vizethann, a former ER nurse who now coaches women through PCOS with practical tools and real empathy. We trace her move from high-stress hospital shifts to building a gym community to guiding clients beyond symptom management, and we unpack the mindset shift that turns “start again Monday” into “start again now.”

Together we clarify what PCOS is and isn’t, why you no longer need ovarian cysts to meet the criteria, and how insulin resistance often shapes symptoms like irregular cycles, acne, or facial hair. We address the stereotypes that lead to missed diagnoses—especially for lean women—and the frustration of being told to “eat less, move more” without a roadmap. Instead of rigid plans or fad diets, we focus on creating daily sustainable habits:  add protein at one meal, take five-minute stretch breaks between calls, stack a short walk after lunch, and prioritize consistent bedtime. These micro-habits compound into better steadier energy, and real progress you can feel.

You’ll also hear how to pair medical care with coaching for a more complete approach, use mindful eating to untangle emotion from food, and celebrate small wins to lock in identity change. Lindsie shares resources to keep learning—her show PCOS Unfiltered, her upcoming book Healing Beyond the Diagnosis, and where to connect for support—so you leave with clarity and a plan that fits your life. If you’re tired of all-or-nothing advice and hungry for sustainable change, this conversation offers both hope and a blueprint.

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In Health,

Shelly

SPEAKER_03:

Just you have to take it day by day, like thinking like um no all or nothing mentality. Just think of like it has to be just something, a little something to take that first step every day. Um, you know, adding in a protein at one meal during the day, getting in some stretches in between your work calls for the day, like just something. Um and then keep doing that and build on that because I think when we get into this all or nothing mentality, we think, well, I didn't do any of that stuff today. I'll just have to start again on Monday instead of just picking up where they left off, and then it just kind of sets you up for failure over and over again, and then celebrate those wins, you know, along the way.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you get confused by all of the information that bombards us every day on ways to improve our overall health and our overall wellness? Do you often feel stuck, unmotivated, or struggle to reach your wellness goals? Do you have questions as to what exercises you should be doing, what foods you should or shouldn't be eating, how to improve your overall emotional and mental well-being? Hello everyone, I am so excited to welcome you to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly Jeffrey, and I will be your host. My goal is to answer these questions and so much more. To share tips, education, and inspiration around all of the components of wellness through solo and guest episodes. With 35 plus years as a health and wellness professional, a retired college professor, a speaker, and a multi-passionate entrepreneur, I certainly have lots to share. However, my biggest goal and inspiration in doing this podcast is to share the wellness stories of others with you. To bring in guests who can share their journeys so that we can all learn together while making an impact on the health, the wellness, and lives of all of you, our listeners. The ultimate hope is that you leave today with even just one nugget that can enhance the quality of your life, and that you will, we all will, now and into the future, live our best quality of lives full of energy, happiness, and joy. Now let's dive into our message for today. Hello, my friends. Welcome back to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly, and I will be your host. And I want to welcome my guest today. She used to be a nurse and she has turned into a health coach, and she empowers women with their weight, with their health, and most specifically, she helps those who have been diagnosed with PCOS and really helps them navigate that diagnosis and moving through that. So Lindsay, welcome.

SPEAKER_00:

So glad to have you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, thank you for uh for allowing me to be here. Love it. Absolutely. And I know we have, I'm sure, a lot that we can share. I want to kind of take you through your journey. And I I always love talking to and learning from individuals like yourself who used to be, you know, working in the medical profession, who used to be a nurse. I mean, I know quite a few who have shifted their career careers through the years. And I just give you a lot of respect. And I also have a ton of respect for what you have to share because of what you have learned, not just from your education, but also being, you know, working in the thick of the the medical industry, I'm sure was quite an experience.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I was in it for like almost 20 years altogether. I was a CNA. I was super fortunate because uh I was from a town in Indiana, northwest Indiana, and we had a co-op program um in high school. And so my junior and senior year of high school, I took a a a class, it was like, you know, whatever, an hour class every day. And then you committed to three hours every single day, Monday through Friday, of working in the hospital. Um, yeah. And so it was a great program. By the end of it, we actually you could become certified as a nursing assistant, which I did. Um, and I worked in the OR, actually. So it was like a lot of, you know, transporting patients and just like running to grab some things and that type of thing. But then of course, as the doctors and nurses got to know you, they were like, Hey, do you wanna watch this surgery? So I knew I wanted to be something in the medical field. I was probably kind of going back and forth to be like nurse and doctor. So it was great exposure. Like it really helped me kind of understand the different roles. I even thought about being like an OR surgical tech at one point. Um, so yeah, so it's great exposure. So I did that, and then it also was a great job to have on during the summers and even a little bit throughout college, you know, whenever I was home for break, they always took me. So then I became, you know, uh like I said, a nursing assistant. I was working in like same-day surgery and doing vitals and just desk stuff and all kinds of stuff there. So it was a great experience, and then right into nursing, nursing school, and then uh yeah, and then nursing. So I was in it like almost 20 years. Bulk of my nursing career was in the ER. So you can see I'm a little bit of an adrenaline chunky when it came to that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I was going to ask you about that because my daughter is a child life specialist and she currently is working in the ER. And I think, you know, just from conversations with her, you you kind of have to be that way. I think it's I think it's taking its toll a little bit on her just because it's just she said you walk in, it's just chaos, right? You just don't know what to expect. Yeah. Some people might thrive on that. I think that takes a special person who can, but then you also at the other end have to find ways to kind of like, I would say, wind down at the end of your day, coming off of that, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I and I did, I thrived off of that until I didn't. Uh, you know, it definitely, definitely then grew on me, especially just, you know, as you learn more and mature more. And then it also just healthcare changed. And like in the ER specifically, it's a lot about metrics, unfortunately. So, you know, it's a lot of get them in, get them out, but also like make sure that they know you care about them. I'm like, that just isn't like that doesn't make sense. Um, you know, do more with less, you know, resources were sometimes a struggle, whether that means people and or equipment, uh, you know, struggling to just get what you even need. Um so yeah, and then looking back, I there it was taking a toll on my body. Um, and of course my mind too. You know, there were a lot of people that unfortunately didn't need to be there, but it was really great when you took care of the ones that that did need to be there. But there were signs like my body was telling me to slow down and I was not listening.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I think that's such an important point because we don't when you're in when you're in it, it's hard to be in tune with how you are feeling physically and mentally, right? Because you're you're just in the mix of it. So to actually have that downtime and realize, you know, realize the toll it's taking on you physically and emotionally and mentally.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, there were days I came, I would come home. I mean, uh with I without going into details of stuff, but there were some disturbing things um that you know that I would see. And I mean, yeah, like I just come home and just baw my eyes out and cry myself to sleep sometimes, you know, not every time. It wasn't, and it wasn't even like a lot, but it was enough. And then there were just some days that were so busy too, you know, where you just like you crash as soon as you go home. You don't eat dinner, you know, fall asleep on the couch and then wander to the bed at some point. Like it just it's not, it was not good. And I would say I'm a very chill person, and so yes, while I loved the ER, I was able to like keep my composure. Nothing really got me like excited. I was just like, okay, this is coming in the door, this is what we're gonna do. And I'd grab the team and would go do it, you know. Um, but yeah, it still did not make it easy for me necessarily.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and I think this is a side that not a lot of people hear about because I think that I remember when my daughter first started, and it hasn't been that that long, but she they shared with her like her office or a space too where she could go. They they encouraged her, come in here and if you need to cry, come in here and cry or whatever it is you need to do, because you you have to have that outlet.

SPEAKER_03:

I oh yeah. And yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. For me, I mean, uh like fitness was always my was always my outlet. Um, I mean, it it really still is. I always say like fitness is for my mental health and the nutrition piece is my physical health. Um, you know, I like you like to run, but I've just always been the fitness freak, I guess you want to say. And so that was like always kind of my outlet. Um, but then working 12-hour shifts on your feet, you know, barely getting a bathroom break, barely getting a meal. Yeah, that part really wears around you too. So, how long has it been since you've been out of nursing? My God, it's so crazy. As I've been talking to more people lately, it's been like seven and a half years since I've practiced at the bedside, which is it's like, where does that time go?

SPEAKER_01:

And did you have a moment where you just went, okay, I'm done, and you just stopped?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh, in a way, yes. I mean, it was definitely building and building. And so when I left nursing, actually before becoming a health coach, I opened up a gym with my husband. It was a cardio kickboxing gym. And I was already going to, it was a franchise. And so I was going to one uh near near me and just like fell in love with the, yes, the workout, but also just the community of it. I was meeting so many great people, so many people on their own health journeys. And so every day I would kind of come home from work and I'd like to say to my husband, I'm like, what if we just make a phone call, just to see what it would take to open up a gym? And so we did. And then of course, you know, we ended up uh with another location. So um, so yeah, so it definitely was wearing on me. And then towards the end, I did give them like a couple months' notice, but I was, I will admit, I was checked out at the end there. Like I was just so over it, and especially since I was so excited about the next chapter in my life. And and I was very blessed, you know, to have that opportunity. Even that many people do that. I mean, it was funny. Like when I first met my husband, we both were like, Well, if we won the lottery, what would you do? And we both said open a gym. So he's he's another, you know, fitness guy too. But um we were able to actually do it and helped so so many people that way. It was amazing, amazing experience.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's exciting. I I I just think as you're talking to you about how how we need we need more nurses, I I believe more qualified nurses, because I hear more often than not people like yourself who have left the industry. I know, and rightfully so. And I I mean, I this is this is obviously we don't have the the time to dive into this, but it almost seems like the system, there's something that needs to shift, yeah, to be able to bring in qualified people, but also you know, have it be where they can not be so I don't know if overworked is the word, and I don't even know what what the answer would be, but to help there continually be qualified people who feel like they can make a difference but not get burnt out by the environment.

SPEAKER_03:

And it's I don't know what the answer is, but yeah, I mean it's really unfortunate. And I, you know, I left before COVID. Um, so I left in 2018. But I'm of course I have a lot of friends, you know, that I used to work with, a lot of nurse friends in general. And I mean, talking to them, I mean that that definitely would have been my final straw, I think, uh, either way, because obviously I was headed that way, but but it's amazing the stories that they told me. And I mean, fortunately, unfortunately, because they're all like great people, but I think a lot of them would have left if they could, but they were kind of stuck. Um, you know, and some aren't aren't comfortable taking a leap of faith and starting something completely new either. Um but yeah, I think COVID was a big, a big eye-opener for a lot in the healthcare industry as well.

SPEAKER_01:

For sure. And you know, just for our our listeners too, um, you know, Lindsay has a podcast as well, and she and I just did a recording for her podcast. So we actually touched upon a couple of these topics a little bit um a little while ago, and it it's crazy to think that we're coming up to almost six years post post-COVID, but but you're right. I mean, I really, really felt for so many, especially the nurses, what they were faced with and dealing with. And and and you're right, not not not everyone is ready to just it can be scary, you know, to take a leap of faith into something completely new and leave your leave the career that you've known. Yeah. And so I I I give people kudos, give kudos to you, and for people that have done that. What brought you to getting involved with your focus on on PCOS? So maybe like share with our listeners what that is for those that are not familiar with it, and and how how did you get involved in that specific focus?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. So uh PCOS is polycystic ovary syndrome or ovarian syndrome. I've heard both. I think I was even taught ovarian syndrome. Um before you used to actually have to have cysts on your ovaries to be diagnosed. Now you actually don't need to have those cysts. So that is one criteria. The other criteria is um irregular or missed cycles, basically, like eight or less periods a year. And then the third criteria is having high androgen levels, and those are the male hormones, so like high testosterone, for example. Um, and that can manifest with uh like facial hair, um, you know, sometimes acne, just because obviously the hormones are you know out of balance. Um, and so you usually need two of those three criteria to be diagnosed. And so you actually, like I said, don't have to have cysts on your ovaries to be diagnosed anymore. There's a big tie with it to insulin resistance um as well. And I think, I mean, I think they're saying anywhere from like 12 to 20 percent of um you know, pubescent girls and women like have PCOS. Honestly, my guess would be upwards of 30%. Is I mean, and that's just speculation. But I mean, I I feel like I talk to so many, and then you also just get to talking to other people, and it's like, oh yeah, I'm familiar with it. My sister has it, you know, whoever, you know, I think it's a lot more prevalent than we realize. Um, but for me, so I had my own health struggles when we had the gym. I did not have PCOS, but um I had an autoimmune con actually a couple autoimmune conditions I ended up getting diagnosed with. But I think it just really opened my eyes to what like what's beyond fitness. Like, yes, I said I love fitness, so it opened my eyes to the nutrition side, to the mindset side. And I just I felt very pulled to this community of women with PCOS because I feel like that is a community that that kind of gets dismissed. They feel unheard. And going back to my nursing days, um, again, it was the ER, but still I would see these women come in with, you know, pain, like a flare-up or something, maybe an ovarian cyst burst. But then you would also see what they were dealing with, you know, with the the facial hair being a lot of them are overweight um and obese, even unfortunately. Um so, and they struggle just with body image issues and self-esteem issues. And so you just saw what these women were dealing with. And then uh yes, from an ER side, of course, we're not there to try to fix everything, but I just still feel like the ER docs didn't know what to do with them. Um, and hearing their stories, I think the regular doctors don't know what to do with them. They throw a pill at them, typically. You know, I even I'm in even like some PCOS Facebook groups and stuff, and and it's it gives me an idea as to kind of what's going on, if there's new treatments out there, but it seems to be kind of the same old thing of like let's just manage this. And they get told, you know, it's a lifelong condition. And I just I don't I don't believe in that in general. I think I think a lot of um chronic diseases can be reversed to some extent. That may not mean you know, fully, but I I do believe that people can feel better, and I feel like the PCOS community especially needs to hear that, needs to hear that message because I don't think they're getting that from our traditional healthcare system.

SPEAKER_01:

But and I you have such a great point that I I feel like you're bringing up our traditional healthcare system. You know, it's and it's again, I I try to kind of qualify it saying I it's not a bash on doctors in any way.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. I I talk about it with nutrition. They're just not they just aren't taught. And I hear a lot of it nowadays, I think just because we are talking about these conditions more frequently, like the PCOS, um, menopause and hormones and perimenopause, pre-menopause. We we just years ago, for whatever reason, I feel like it wasn't a conversation, and now it is. And I hear so frequently, like you're saying, is that there's just there's not enough education around it, and maybe it's because we haven't known enough about it. I don't really know, but unless you specialize in these areas, you know, you're you're being treated, like you said, basically with here, take this pill. I I have a gal that was dealing with with a lot of this when she was in her her early 20s, really young. And she had, like you're saying, all the symptoms, you know, put on weight and had all these different symptoms. And the doctor at the time gave her um antidepressants. And she was like, I I don't think this is what I need. And it was her own research and discovery that she just, you know, she discovered what was going on with herself and her health. And she's gone on to to educate others. But it's just I don't know. I guess that's the expression I'm thinking of is you can't you can't be all things to all people, right? You have to there's only so much you can do. And so I guess it's just the message would probably be to just be an advocate for yourself, whatever that looks like. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah, definitely for sure. Um I mean, yeah, like educate yourself, you know, know what's out there. I mean, with my podcast, I mentioned this to you, like my goal with that is just to expose women to, you know, to more options. And it doesn't mean it has to replace traditional healthcare. But maybe they need something to kind of supplement the medication that they're taking so that they can actually make this a sustainable, you know, lifelong journey of healing instead of just a temporary, you know, fix. Um, but I do think a lot of that comes from like mindset. Like, first of all, when a doctor hands hands them the diagnosis, and this could be for anything, really any diagnosis, a lot of times they say, Well, this is a lifelong condition. And to me, like that's just setting you up for failure, you know, like a lot of women take that as like a almost like a prison sentence, you know, like, oh my gosh, I'm just defined by this diagnosis, you know? Yeah. Um, and so yeah, yeah, I I have to like bite my tongue sometimes too. I'm like, I'm trying not to bash, you know, the healthcare system because it does serve a purpose at some points, but for unfortunately for a lot of chronic conditions, it's it's not the be-all end-all typically. Um, and a lot of times, like I find that for women with PCOS too, there can be something deeper going on. There can be some traumas involved there. Um, I talk a lot about mindful eating as well. And a lot of times there's emotional attachments to food and our habits and how we're eating and when we're eating and why we're eating it, you know, all that good stuff. Um, so yeah, it's not not a bash, not a bash on the healthcare system, but I think just knowing that there are people, you know, like myself out there to help you kind of supplement what the doctor's telling you, because like you said, they don't they don't learn that in school. I mean, even as a nurse, yeah, we we learn more probably about nutrition than what physicians I mean, I've heard out of their however many years, eight to twelve years or something that they get of, you know, between medical school and internships and all that stuff. I've heard they get like maybe a week at the most. I've heard even less than that, but maybe a week. And even that, it's like, okay, if this person has this rare condition, you know, here's a type of diet that you want to prescribe to them. But I know I've talked to so many women, they're like, Yeah, my doctor just told me to lose weight. Okay, did they say how? They said eat eat less, move more. Okay, or they or they'll say, like, do the keto diet or something, but they just don't know what any of that means and how to actually help them through that. And so that's where somebody like myself, you know, can do that for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they could they just don't know how to really implement any of that. I just it's so wild because I just think back to all the years of putting so much, and I again I I I mean, I trust my doctors. I I love the doctors that I go to now. I just think through all the years, like that was all we knew. Like we didn't know any different or any better than it's not that they're doing anything wrong, it's just you there's so many different things that we could potentially be dealing with. Yeah, and we just don't we just don't know. I I when you're when you're talking about the PCOS, it brings me back to I had I think two cases, but one I remember really, really vividly where I had a cyst that um that burst, and oh my gosh, the pain is unbearable. But at the time I had no idea. I was like, oh gosh, I was young. I was in my late teens. Maybe I was in, maybe I was in my early 20s. And I remember I had finished, I think I had finished teaching in uh a fitness class at a gym I was working at at the time, and it it was scary. I mean, I can't even imagine, you know, it just was so scary because it had no idea what was going on. And you you can't know because it sometimes it just comes up and you don't you don't know that you even have you don't even have that issue, right?

SPEAKER_03:

And so I I think too now there I am hearing a little bit more about because because like I said, I think out of you know the the percentage of women that have it, I've heard upwards of like 80% are overweight or obese. But now there is almost this trend too where we're seeing a lot more lean individuals than are individuals that have it, and they are really getting dismissed by the doctor because they don't fit that picture that they thought a woman like yeah, of what a woman with PCOS should look like. So yes, they have might have cysts, but they're like, Well, that doesn't really mean you have a diagnosis, or you know, it's whatever, it's kind of normal that you know, like they just kind of blow it off instead of addressing probably a deeper root cause, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's so important. Yeah. How can people find you, Lindsay? Especially for any women, moms out there who might be might be suffering from this, and I don't want to say suffering because there is there's hope, there's treatment, but yeah, that what you're doing is so is so needed uh with this specific population. So how can people find you?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so a few different ways. Um, so like you mentioned, I have my own podcast. It's PCOS Unfiltered, Nourish, Heal, Thrive. Um, and I'm on all the major streaming platforms, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, Spotify, all that stuff. Um, so you can search it there. I am on Instagram, healthy underscore ever after 15. And then Facebook is just my first and last name, Lindsay Viseffen. Um, I'm also working on my first book that should be coming out probably by the end of the year. Uh, I actually, like shortly before we jumped on this call, I got the the full manuscript back from the editor. Um, so it should be set to publish here soon. And then yeah, hopefully by the end of the year. And that's called Healing Beyond the Diagnosis. Um, so keep an eye out for that. Uh and then I do have an uh uh event coming up towards the end of January as well. Um, I can give you a link for that too. It's called the anti-resolution revolution. So lots of exciting things happening.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, I will definitely put all of that information in the show notes and congrats on the on the book. That is so exciting. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to have you on. Is it once it's released or as it gets closer to the end of January? Uh, I'm hoping by the end of this month.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my goodness. Okay. I should have it. I should have it. It'll be available on Amazon um to start. Um and so I should have it uploaded and then it might take a couple more weeks. But yeah, so my goal would be by end of the year, end of the month. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, good for you. And to tackle that and complete that during the month of December, that I give you kudos for that.

SPEAKER_03:

No, well, I started in May, so this has been quite a journey. But um I'm super excited about it. Yeah, super excited to get the word out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's wonderful. Well, congrats. That's that's amazing. Thank you. Amazing. Thank you. Well, I want to encourage any of our listeners who might be going through any of these challenges that that Lindsay can help you with, or perhaps you know someone, please pass her information on, you know, pass Lindsay's information on. And um thank you everyone, everyone, for tuning in and listening today. And I guess we'll just finish, Lindsay, if you have any last-minute words of wellness or inspiration you'd like to leave with the listeners.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I would say probably like I tell the women in my 90-day program is just you have to take it day by day, like thinking like um no all or nothing mentality. Just think of like it has to be just something, a little something to take that first step every day. Um, you know, adding in a protein at one meal during the day, getting in some stretches in between your work calls for the day, like just something. Um, and then keep doing that and build on that because I think when we get into this all or nothing mentality, we think, well, I didn't do any of that stuff today. I'll just have to start again on Monday instead of instead of just picking up where they left off, and then it just kind of sets you up for failure over and over again, and then celebrate those wins, you know, along the way too.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's beautiful. I couldn't agree more with you. Celebrate the wins and just take the baby steps, keep keep moving forward, right? Yep, for sure. Well, thank you so much. This has been really great getting to have our conversations and getting to know each other a little bit more. And I'm excited to to hear when your book is is out, and we will have to share that for sure. Yep. Yeah. To all of our listeners, take time on this day for yourself and your own personal wellness. And until next time, have a beautiful, blessed rest of your week, everyone. We'll see you next time on Words of Wellness. Thank you so much for tuning in to today's episode. I hope you gained value and enjoyed our time together as much as I did. And if you know someone who could benefit from today's episode, I would love and appreciate it if you could share with a friend or rate and review Words of Wellness so that more can hear this message. I love and appreciate you all. Thank you for listening. And if you have any questions or topics you would like me to share in future episodes, please don't hesitate to reach out to me through my contact information that is shared in the show notes below. Again, thank you for tuning in to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelley Jeffries, and I encourage you to do something for you, for your wellness on this day. Until next time, I hope you all have a healthy, happy, and blessed week.