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Shelly Jefferis Season 1 Episode 47

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Join this episode of "Words of Wellness" as Shelly and Denise discuss the importance of breaking free from the chains of perfectionism when it comes to our overall health and the importance of taking charge and being proactive! They will guide you on a journey toward embracing imperfect action for greater wellness. Shelly is joined by Denise, a holistic nutritionist and health coach, who reveals her transformative journey from raising health-conscious children to advocating for home births. Together, they unravel the evolving landscape of nutrition and the pivotal role of mindset in achieving sustainable health transformations.

Imagine breaking down your exercise routines into bite-sized segments without feeling overwhelmed—that's just one of the practical strategies we explore with Denise. We discuss the profound impact of small, manageable lifestyle changes and how personalized coaching can be the cornerstone of consistent progress. Emphasizing the necessity of a holistic approach, we delve into connecting body, mind, and spirit, ensuring that each health journey is as unique as the individual undertaking it. The conversation  provides insights for anyone looking for accountability with wellness goals.

Balancing healthier eating habits amid life's temptations and the increasing cost of groceries can be a struggle, especially for parents. But Denise and Shelly also keep it light and include laughter along with a couple of fun stories of their own illustrating that making healthier choices doesn't require perfection. As we highlight the power of leading by example, we encourage you to prioritize your wellness journey and inspire those around you. Don't forget to share this episode with loved ones, rate and review "Words of Wellness," and send in your questions or topics for future episodes. Here's to a balanced, healthier you!


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Shelly Jefferis

Speaker 1:

Don't be afraid to take imperfect action. You know, just do something, start somewhere. And you know, because a lot of times we have a perfectionistic what you were talking about, shelley, this perfectionistic thing that it has to be this way, and it doesn't just because perfectionism can just be a killer, it just it leads to not taking any action. So I really love the take imperfect action, just start.

Speaker 2:

Do you get confused by all of the information that barges us every day on ways to improve our overall health and our overall wellness? Do you often feel stuck, unmotivated or struggle to reach your wellness goals? Do you have questions as to what exercises you should be doing, what foods you should or should not be eating, how to improve your overall emotional and mental well-being? Hello everyone, I am so excited to welcome you to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly Jeffries and I will be your host. My goal is to answer these questions and so much more. To share tips, education, and I will be your host. My goal is to answer these questions and so much more. To share tips, education and inspiration around all of the components of wellness through solo and guest episodes.

Speaker 2:

With 35 plus years as a health and wellness professional, a retired college professor, a speaker and a multi-passionate entrepreneur, I certainly have lots to share. However, my biggest goal and inspiration in doing this podcast is to share the wellness stories of others with you, to bring in guests who can share their journeys so that we can all learn together while making an impact on the health, the wellness and lives of all of you, our listeners. The ultimate hope is that you leave today with even just one nugget that can enhance the quality of your life, and that you will. We all will, now and into the future, live our best quality of lives, full of energy, happiness and joy. Now let's dive into our message for today.

Speaker 2:

Hello everyone, and welcome back to Words of Wellness. I am your host, shelly Jeffries, and welcome to the show today. If this is your first time, I'm grateful to have you here and I'm really excited for the conversation today with my guest. She is a holistic nutritionist and health coach and definitely we have a lot in common. We've been chatting for a little bit before we started to record this episode, so I want to first say welcome, denise. I'm excited to have you here welcome, denise.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited to have you here. Oh, thank you so much, shelley. I just this is so fun and I love the connection already, so it's. Yeah thank you so much for allowing me to be on.

Speaker 2:

We're sure and yes, we have. We have a lot in common, so we will just try and get to what our focus is for today and be intentional with what we want to cover when it comes to wellness and nutrition and just our overall health. But I know we are going to have a great conversation here today, so I would love for you to share a little bit how you got involved in this industry.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is my favorite thing to talk about. So, about this industry and wellness, um, it's just my passion. I've always been a little bit on the more natural side always, and I was trying to, even when I was raising my children, always trying to give them, uh, better choices of foods and things like that, even though I didn't quite understand our food in the United States I wasn't quite understanding when it says real fruit in there. That's not what they meant, but anyway. So I mean I was still really trying, and even before that, I had all of my babies at home. I had home births with all the kids, and so I've always had that natural lean.

Speaker 1:

And so then it just as life progressed, I decided to go to school. I worked for a pretty big health and wellness company. I was one of their national educators and I wanted to get some credentials behind that. So I went back to school and got my nutrition certification, and so now I'm it's just kind of graduated. Now I do a lot of one-on-one coaching and, and my favorite not my favorite, but one of my favorite clients to get are is someone, uh, that has tried many diets and they just, they just can't seem to make them stick and I know because that's what I did for for so many years. So, and finally, when I put mindset and thought and why I was, why I was eating when I wasn't hungry, you know, when I started putting those things together, so, because I've had to walk that path, that's I feel like I can. Just, you know, my clients really benefit from that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I love that because I can really relate to that I was just sharing with someone yesterday about having the education in the background, but also just the rich experience that you bring. I too, I know we were talking earlier. You said I think you've been involved in wellness for 35 years, and that is the same for me. It's been probably close to 40 now and it's always been my heart to to teach and to help others, and that's that's what we do. That's why we do what we do.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's just, it's in our, it's in our blood, it's in our DNA and and I love to hear you talking about with your children, because that's you know when I became more intentional with looking at labels, food labels, looking at ingredients, and even with that I look back to some of the snacks that I gave my kids and I went oh my gosh, I wouldn't do that today. You know better, you do better and you know there was some degree of information and knowledge back then. But boy has it grown over the last couple of decades. Right, right, right, and that's.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly right, shelley, right, right, right, and that's. That's exactly right, shelley, it is. It's just you know, you, when you find out and you learn more than you can make better choices, and that's you know. Everything's in a stage and a growing and it's not necessarily either wrong or right. It's like when you know better, you do better. It's just like what you said so and my kids definitely. Just like what you said so and my kids definitely. You know, when I was even trying to be healthy back then and wasn't making the best choices, they were still rolling their eyes going oh, mom, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, yes, I do. And you know funny story I'll share with you because you'll appreciate this. I was traveling for a little bit when my kids were in elementary school. Just on occasion I would go and do a training for a company I was with. That was prenatal fitness training, and I would, I would be in charge of the entire event. So I was the person I had to go.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't like back out at the last minute and you know, because there were a couple of weekends where I went, I was like in tears, like I'm leaving my kids. I didn't want to, but my husband was with them. So I'm like this is going to be fun for them and I'll never forget coming home one of the weekends and I mean all of the sugary cereal and donuts and junk. And I'm like, okay, so dad, let the kids just have a field day at the, at the grocery store, and just pick out all the junk food, right? So I'll never forget that I, it was just the funniest thing and I thought, you know, it's all right, they had their fun.

Speaker 1:

Mom's back now I'm going to clear this stuff out of here.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. I know I yeah the stories, and I mean because I was an emotional eater, uh, with having, with having being a single mom and four children under five, I was absolutely you know I'd get to the end of the day and I would just eat and I would just say thank you God that I made one more diet, you know, you know, just made it another day, and so I know the patterns of emotional eating so well, because that's what I had to come through to get to where I am today and it's a lot of our thought patterns and how we're using food.

Speaker 2:

And I, you know I was going to touch up on that.

Speaker 2:

So I'm so glad you were bringing that up because, first of all, I don't know how you did it with four young children under five and being a single mom.

Speaker 2:

I give you kudos for that, because that was, that was huge in itself.

Speaker 2:

But it's so true and I'm sure you're finding this that so much of the time, when it comes to you know, dealing with you know our eating patterns or our weight, whether we're trying to lose weight, gaining weight, whatever it is, it's so much of that mindset and, like you say, we get into these thought patterns and it's such an interesting thing to really, I think, kind of dissect, because I think too, like I, we weren't, like this necessary, but I remember years ago when my dad would share with us how, when they would sit out down at the dinner table, it was like you had to, like you know, clear your plate before you had the dessert and and so we get in these patterns and these habits which take us away from really being intuitive with, okay, am I really hungry right now and what does my body need? All of these things, right, and so, and I'm sure you're helping so many you know, mostly women, I think but helping so many people with that, and that's huge. That's such a huge component.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and you know, I have to be very careful about even how I ask, because when I ask someone, do you eat when you're not hungry? They don't put it together. They say, well, no, no, I don't eat when I'm not hungry. And it's funny how we fool ourselves and our body fools us and our mind fools us into thinking that we are hungry. But we've really had, we've had three meals, we've had snacks, we don't need the nighttime eating or whatever it is, and so it's just the awareness. And so I have to be very careful of how I ask the question, because we have to start really identifying in our own life how we're using food.

Speaker 1:

If weight is the issue with which with me it was, which was really sad because I had, um, what do they call that? Like fraud, syndrome, kind of thing. You know here I am a nutritionist, I know what to eat and I've always and I was 670 pounds overweight for for much of my life and it like how can this be? And when I started actually putting the two things together of the mindset, work and what I was taught and what I believed, you know about food and what it meant to me, it all started changing.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing. Yeah, you start to kind of connect all of that and I think, like you're saying, awareness is really the key that's. That's that's the term I use a lot when I'm sharing information, and one area that I like to speak on and share a lot about is is what we're being exposed to as far as the toxins, and how can we make some changes to lead a little bit of a healthier, cleaner lifestyle when we're bombarded with these toxins? And my goal, I will always say, is to bring about the awareness around it. Right, because it's not, it's not something we're taught and it's never a perfect scenario, but it's just, like you're saying, when you start to become more aware of, like, why you were eating and the connection to that, that's with anything, that's where the growth happens, right.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and it's not fun necessarily to look at that. You know, I heard a saying from someone who said you know, there's no growth in the comfort zone and there's no comfort in the growing zone, and I just thought, boy, is that the truth? You know you do have to dig down deep and be, you know, kind of more more vulnerable. But I wanted to go to something you were talking about with toxins a very easy way that people don't realize with you know, toxicity and just the things that we're taking in, like what you were saying.

Speaker 1:

You know people can do really simple lifestyle things, whether if they can take an Epsom salt bath you know that draws out the toxins and the and even if they have access to a gym or a sauna. The sauna and the sweating is so good for people, because what we want is things moving through. And when they're stagnating and they're stuck, like you can even hear it, like when some people get like congestion, you can hear it it's stuck and that we want that moving through. So water is critical, so all these things to detox, just like what you were saying is, so it's critical in a life to keep it, to keep us healthy.

Speaker 2:

It is and it's and it's. And those are just some of the basic things, right, that we really could be doing on a regular basis. And it's critical now with so much of the exposure that is happening, critical now with so much of the exposure that is happening and, and I just feel like taking little steps here and there, maybe making some healthier swaps on certain products that we use in our home. You know, making some changes that are small, add up over time, like you're saying, and otherwise it's, it's just too overwhelming. I feel like it's just there's so much out there and it's you can, as you know, get into like this rabbit hole of research and reading about everything, and it's sometimes it feels like it's an uphill battle. So that's why it's always so important to just kind of reiterate just some of the simple things we can do, like you're sharing.

Speaker 1:

You know they are simple and and when I talk to someone who's just where I consider kind of transitioning into a healthier lifestyle, we start with just drink water. I want you know six to eight glasses of water a day, and we're not going to focus on anything else right now with the food part just because that alone will will start making a difference. People don't realize that, just like you said, simple little lifestyle things really do add up.

Speaker 2:

They really do. And it just reminded me to back when I was sharing with my students in the college years ago, when the exercise recommendation was at least 30 minutes a day, you know, and sometimes I would share with them. You know, for some that was overwhelming. I don't have 30 minutes, right, I don't have another free 30 minutes of my day. And then later on, years later, as the research came out, sharing that, oh, it's okay to break it up, you could do, you know, 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes at lunch, 10 at night. You're going to still get the same benefit.

Speaker 2:

So for me personally, I like to get it all done in one shot. But for other people that made it doable. So it's kind of like you're saying breaking it into little chunks. So okay, I can do that, I can. I can do 10 minutes, I can. You know, I can drink six to eight glasses of water a day and then you get that under your belt and get in the habit and then you move on to the next. We're just so, as you know, in this society of like wanting everything done and we want it. You know done. You know last month, last year.

Speaker 1:

And it doesn't work that way. Oh and, and that boy, have you hit that nail on the head? That is everybody wants everything. You know, I have a big sign in my office that says your body isn't Amazon Prime. You're not going to get this health in two days, you know, because it's. We have to get back to the lifestyle of good food, proper supplementation and exercise. I mean, it's just actually pretty simple. Even though the whole world and marketing wants to make it very difficult, it really isn't so. One of the things I love about coaching is the accountability part, though, because when I'm coaching, it's like okay, we, you know, you, you, we talk, and then you've got an assignment, and then we talk. And then, how did you do? What went well? What, what didn't go well? What are we going to improve on, so that there is someone you know following with you, because it's so much easier?

Speaker 2:

to do it. And it's like I always hear that example that if you are again getting up to go work out, if you're getting up on your own, it's much easier to push the snooze button than if you're meeting a friend at the gym. Right, same kind of you have that accountability partner and that responsibility to meet them. So same thing, like you're saying as you're coaching people. It's the same thing and I and I love providing that for others and I love it for me too. You know, just keeping you, keeping you on track, is so important.

Speaker 1:

It is. And you know I mean I have a trainer, that that I I need some accountability, I need to have someone that I am learning from and making sure my posture is good on certain you know different kinds of workouts and I have a business coach to to help with my business building efforts, and so I mean it makes sense that if health, if you're challenged in your health, to get some coaching and accountability and support and encouragement Right it's so important it really is.

Speaker 2:

Now, when you do you do most of your coaching one-on-one. Do you do group programs, or what does that look like? I do mostly my favorite coaching one-on-one. Do you do group programs, or what does that look like?

Speaker 1:

I do mostly. My favorite is one-on-one. Um, I see, yes, I, I mostly do that. We do have some group things happening and and I love that too, um, I'm, but it's uh, I love the one-on-one because I can see such progress. It's it. Yeah, it makes a big difference when I'm meeting with people every week and they have assignments they have to to send in and it all, and it's always a combination. You and I were talking about the body and the mind and the spirit. Those things have to be connected so, so their assignment is going to be in all three of those areas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that and I'm sure, like you're finding that as you work with them one-on-one, it's, it's accelerated to some degree. And you know every person. I have someone that I know that's within our wellness company and she's been in fitness and wellness for many, many decades and she has a program that she has available now to older women. I guess you could say, like ourselves, but her big point is that there's not, it's going to be, an individualized program, right, there's not going to be something that's going to fit every single person exactly the same. And and it's it I remember you used to share that with with students too, and clients through the years that everybody's body is going to respond differently to everything that we're doing, so nobody is the same in that regard doing so nobody is the same in that regard.

Speaker 1:

So having that individualized attention and program is so key. Oh, and that boy. That again, Shelly. That's amazing. That point is so important. It's not a one size fits all. It's so just moldable as we go because some people get it a lot faster in one area and then we can switch and, you know, still be working on the other areas. So, yeah, it makes it you go farther faster when you got somebody coming along, which is why I have other people in other areas and I still need, I still am constantly learning. I mean, who knows everything? I mean, you know, I'm still learning health and wellness types of things all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I'm so happy you bring that up, because I, I, I I'm intentional, I don't know, I sometimes might forget, but probably 90% of the time, 95% of the time, I will say that, like it's not perfect, I don't know all, but I want to share with you what I do know and hopefully condense time for you, because this is something that is part of my profession, just like yourself, right. So we're trying to pass that information on so that other people can apply it in a shorter amount of time, like you're saying, it's, and that's, I think, why we've done this, and I know for me personally, it's. I love I'm always reading something related to health and there's always something to learn. There's always an area you know to to to learn more about, an area you know to to to learn more about.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I had someone on yesterday who specializes in gut health and I've had another. I did another episode on that and I have someone else I spoke to today on the same topic and I know a little bit about it, but it's not my expertise. So I love, you know, hearing and learning more when it's you know, it's something that we can share a little bit about, but when you have more, when it's you know it's something that we can share a little bit about, but when you have someone that that's really their focus, it's exciting.

Speaker 1:

And honest, I do the same thing. I'm listening to webinars and podcasts and stuff all on health, because I'm constantly gleaning a little bit of something that will help me and then help a client or help my children all my grown children now. That will help me and then help a client, or help my children, all my grown children now. So I mean that it's, it's just a win. Win when we got, you know, open hearts and minds to learning For sure that's, that's key, that is so key.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure you've come across people who maybe aren't as open, or you, you know, I always will say too, there's really, especially when it comes to, I feel, like fitness, but it's the same kind of nutrition. But I always have kind of like caution people that if someone says it's only this way or do this, don't do that. It's never really a black or white issue, right, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Right, absolutely. I mean. I often say we're all an experiment of one, because that, to me, lets everybody be themselves and and and their particular body functions may not be operating at peak efficiency, so that means they may need maybe some liquid supplements would work with them better, because their body doesn't have to break down a capsule or something like that. So it's all like we do something, we try something, and then we watch and we listen and see how the body's operating.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's so good, I love that. So we were talking, before we push record, a little bit about our families, and so I guess you know, I think maybe we'll talk about empty nest being an empty nest, or maybe on another we'll do another episode for that perhaps. But I am so impressed that you, like you, were talking about having your four children and being a single mom, and now they're all grown adults. How do you feel? I mean, like you say, when they were younger, they're kind of rolling your eyes.

Speaker 2:

I think my kids still do that a little bit with me, which is fine, I'm fine with that, right, I always feel like you know you, you just keep doing the do, set the example, and at some point it will pay off. And so it just makes me laugh, because my daughter's pretty darn healthy and my boys are really healthy as well. However, what's funny about that is the boys never liked greens of any sort any kind, and our older son, when he went to college, started eating salad and brown rice, and then our younger son was like ew, what's wrong with him? Why is he eating brown rice, you know? So I guess my question is how has that affected your children through the years in their own health journey?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, hugely, Because guess who they call now when they got problems. Yeah, and I, just I, I just have to look up and say thank you God right at some level.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, um. So I am absolutely honored that my children call me when they have an issue and say what, what do you think here? What can we do what? What should I try? Because so many times in life I could tell them something and they wouldn't listen. But their friend would tell them the exact same thing and they would say, oh, there's the magic. And it's like did I not just say you know that? So the adult children to the, to mom is is much different at this point. So I'm loving and they are much more aware. They still definitely are falling into the old, like patterns of the American. Like you know, it's just easy, even though they're trying to make it their children have healthier snacks. It's a tough go in this world right now. I my heart goes out to my children and everybody in those you know, twenties, thirties, forties, gee whiz.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, you're right, because of so many, so many different factors, which, again, that's that's another day, another episode but, like you're saying, having the different options and healthier option and then, not to mention now, the fact of the, you know, the cost of groceries and all of the things, make it, yeah, make it a little bit of a challenge.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the kids naturally are are going to sweets because that's you know, that's the dopamine hits and that's the you know the reward system that takes off and all that. So you know it's really it's, it's, it's tough, and I think the other. The other thing I would like to say, though, is I, no matter where you are right now, wherever the your listeners are in their life, and if they've like, just go, oh my gosh, I, I've ruined my kids, or whatever. How many times I thought that, you know, we can always start and and take our little steps that we were talking about with you know, with ourselves and our children, but it actually, to me, starts with me doing the right things first and them watching. That means so much more than me telling them what to do.

Speaker 2:

Well, 100%, we want to be that example, and that's the thing that I always will share is, you know, as you know, they're watching us and I'm just really grateful. My husband and I have always been involved with exercise and, for the most part, eating pretty healthy. You know not, you know, nothing's perfect, right, but yeah, so they've always been around that and so I'm grateful for that. And you're right, we, we need to be the example. That's. That's a huge. I mean, that's just the way it is, you're right.

Speaker 1:

We we need to be the example. That's. That's a huge. I mean, that's just the way it is. Well, and that's kind of why.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I have a secret story I'm going to tell so, so because, and, and my children still lived, so, but, but the bigger problem was I was like a closet eater because you know they, the kids, were all little and I'd get them to bed finally and then, but I would have days, um, certain days in the month where I would go like to a Costco or a Sam's club a Costco or Sam's club and they had these muffins and I thought carrot muffins were just fine, I thought they were great. So they would come in a pack of 12 and I would, the kids would be taken care of by someone. I'm doing the shopping and I would come out of Costco and I would set that 12 next to me, in the seat next to me, and I would start picking off and eating the tops of those muffins. So I just have to tell your audience. By the time I got home they were all flat and my children never knew a muffin had muffin tops until they went into middle school.

Speaker 2:

That is a classic story. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

They thought muffins were flat. They just thought, that's how they came.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome. Oh my gosh. They thought muffins were flat. They just thought that's how they came. That is awesome. Oh my gosh. I love that story. That's a shareable. I'm going to have to share that. That's great. That is a great-. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

And you know what the kids ate muffins and the kids you know. And you know what we all live. We all live through it, but just know that no one's perfect nobody is and honestly, the muffin top is the best.

Speaker 2:

I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1:

So oh, I mean you just can't put those next to you in the seat and and expect that they're going to stay there and be yeah, and then if there's frosting on there, then oh I know, on a carrot on a carrot carrot muffin, that carrot cakes.

Speaker 1:

Just know that we can start anywhere. Even when I was doing really not so healthy things, you know, it still went through the process and the journey and and everybody. I just want people to really start taking their health seriously, because it's not going to get easier here where we live, in the United States or anywhere, If it is just not. They're not making it easy for us, so we need to really pay attention on our own.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Yeah, and that's what I say too. You know, we have to be proactive, we really really do. And you know, and you sharing that story again, I love that because we're human, we're all just human, right, and we're all on this journey, you know, and everybody's kind of at different stages, but it's a journey for all of us and, again, it's never perfect. But I always feel like, if we can I don't know, maybe like 80% of the time make the healthy choices and then enjoy ourselves the rest of the time, because that's a big I'm always the big proponent of we have, we want to be enjoying our lives. We're, you know, our lives are meant to be enjoyed, not to be this restrictive, you know, rule following I can't have this, I can't do this, I can't eat that. I'm not a proponent of any of that.

Speaker 2:

But when you fuel your body with some of the best ingredients and best nutrition, then our bodies are, you know, miracles, right, and we operate as they're meant to and we can still enjoy whatever we want to enjoy, whether it's muffin tops or sad when I read or see people that are being so restrictive and I'm like, no, it doesn't have to be that way, it doesn't and it's.

Speaker 2:

You know it's tough sometimes again changing that frame of thinking for some people, but you know where we come in is to help them understand that. You know it doesn't have to be that way and you can still get your results and you can still be healthy and and and reach your goals.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, I and I do, and I just think that if they, if everybody just starts with you know, baby steps and and doing something easy and always I mean movement is just so important to to do what you were saying, which is, if it's 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there, I I get mine all in at the same time because I, I can't, I can't break up my day like that, but it's just critical movement. We were meant to move and everything in us is, you know, know, really meant to move, where we're just balls of energy. Whether we like to, you know, whether we feel like that or not, that's what's happening.

Speaker 2:

So it's so true, yeah, I think about that on.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think back to.

Speaker 2:

I'm kind of grateful that you know, even though it's been over 20 years, that I was pregnant, but I I'm grateful that I knew that back then, that you know there, I guess there would have been a time back in the early, early days where during pregnancy, it was like the doctor would be like, oh no, you sit down, don't do anything Right, and and grateful that we weren't a part of that era, because I just remember, no, we're meant to move, Our bodies are meant to move, even during pregnancy.

Speaker 2:

You know we're meant to be moving and so I think that's such a great key point. And you know, we, we got kind of stuck sitting a little bit too much, you know, a few years ago when the country was shut down, and our bodies aren't meant to do that in our body and we're also not meant to be isolated either. So thank God we're getting out of that. But but yeah, the, the movement, and it doesn't have to be so strenuous either, Right, it doesn't have to be right where we kill ourselves at the gym. So that's the other part of the component.

Speaker 1:

But right and just walking outside is free, or putting in a DVD of of you know, walking, exercise, anything I mean, that's all free and it it just takes the determination to, to want to be healthier and, like I said a lot of times, that just takes someone to help you launch off. So you may not need help forever, but it you know, if you need that in the beginning, then I I think that's really key. Yeah, make make a decision and do it, yeah absolutely well.

Speaker 2:

I I've loved this conversation with you, denise. I know we can talk for, yeah, a long time. Um, where can our listeners find you?

Speaker 1:

Oh well they. I have a website. It's called total wellness academycom and my email should be on there, but it's Denise at naturally nourishingcom and I do all. I do all kinds of you know. I do other things, but my favorite thing is the one-on-one coaching. But I have a little wellness center that we do detox, ionic foot baths and I have a heart sound recorder and so we have several different things that we do. Most of all, it's kind of helping people love who they are, love where they're at and just be healthier getting to be healthier.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful. I love that. Well, I will certainly include all of your information in the show notes.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, oh, shelly, this has been so fun. You are just precious.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you are so kind, thank you so much, and I just so appreciate you being here and any last words of wellness or inspiration you want to share with our listeners.

Speaker 1:

Don't be afraid to take imperfect action. You know, just do something, start somewhere. And and you know, because a lot of times we have a perfectionistic what you were talking about, shelly this perfectionistic thing that it has to be this way, and it doesn't just because perfectionism can just be a killer, it just it leads to not taking any action. So I really love the take imperfect action, just start.

Speaker 2:

I love that, yeah, and like you said earlier, it's never. It's never too late either it's never too late either.

Speaker 1:

Ever too late. Can I share what I'm going to be on my next birthday? Sure, 70. No way, yeah, I'm going to be. I can hardly believe it.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, the listeners can't see you, but you look amazing. I would have never guessed that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you, thank you, and I feel great. I don't feel what someone would think when they say 70. I don't feel that at all, but I just feel like it. It it's the power of making good choices of, and we can make anti-aging choices you know, yes, yeah, and that's a whole nother. Anti-aging is a whole nother show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we might have to jump on and do another episode on and talk about that a lot, because I am so with you. I just feel like as we chronologically age, I mean I don't I feel better now in my fifties than I did in my thirties, so yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I know this is the best it's been and it's like it can be that if we apply the right things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely Well, thank you again. So much, this is great.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you so much, appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

And thank you to everyone listening today and, as always, do something for your own personal wellness and, until next time, have a beautiful, blessed rest of your week and we'll see you next time on Words of Wellness. Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode. I hope you gained value and enjoyed our time together as much as I did, and if you know someone who could benefit from today's episode, I would love and appreciate it if you could share with a friend or rate and review words of wellness so that more can hear this message. I love and appreciate you all. Thank you for listening and if you have any questions or topics you would like me to share in future episodes, please don't hesitate to reach out to me through my contact information that is shared in the show notes below. Again, thank you for tuning in to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly Jeffries and I encourage you to do something for you, for your wellness, on this day. Until next time, I hope you all have a healthy, happy and blessed week. Thank you you.